Huic mori optimum esse propter desperationem sapientiae, illi propter spem vivere. Vide, quaeso, rectumne sit. Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Atqui iste locus est, Piso, tibi etiam atque etiam confirmandus, inquam; Utinam quidem dicerent alium alio beatiorem! Iam ruinas videres.

Summae mihi videtur inscitiae. Te enim iudicem aequum puto, modo quae dicat ille bene noris. Itaque vides, quo modo loquantur, nova verba fingunt, deserunt usitata. Haec et tu ita posuisti, et verba vestra sunt.

An est aliquid per se ipsum flagitiosum, etiamsi nulla comitetur infamia? Atqui, inquit, si Stoicis concedis ut virtus sola, si adsit vitam efficiat beatam, concedis etiam Peripateticis. Suam denique cuique naturam esse ad vivendum ducem. Dolere malum est: in crucem qui agitur, beatus esse non potest. Hoc non est positum in nostra actione.

Negabat igitur ullam esse artem, quae ipsa a se proficisceretur; Quis, quaeso, illum negat et bonum virum et comem et humanum fuisse? Quodsi ipsam honestatem undique pertectam atque absolutam. Itaque nostrum est-quod nostrum dico, artis est-ad ea principia, quae accepimus. Haec bene dicuntur, nec ego repugno, sed inter sese ipsa pugnant.

Erit enim instructus ad mortem contemnendam, ad exilium, ad ipsum etiam dolorem. Utinam quidem dicerent alium alio beatiorem! Iam ruinas videres. Quid enim mihi potest esse optatius quam cum Catone, omnium virtutum auctore, de virtutibus disputare? Bonum integritas corporis: misera debilitas. Nihil opus est exemplis hoc facere longius. Habes, inquam, Cato, formam eorum, de quibus loquor, philosophorum. Aliter homines, aliter philosophos loqui putas oportere? Hanc quoque iucunditatem, si vis, transfer in animum;

In qua quid est boni praeter summam voluptatem, et eam sempiternam? Bonum incolumis acies: misera caecitas. Quid enim de amicitia statueris utilitatis causa expetenda vides. Et quod est munus, quod opus sapientiae? Hoc dixerit potius Ennius:

Nimium boni est, cui nihil est mali. Hoc tu nunc in illo probas. At modo dixeras nihil in istis rebus esse, quod interesset.

Si stante, hoc natura videlicet vult, salvam esse se, quod concedimus; Quicquid porro animo cernimus, id omne oritur a sensibus; Cuius quidem, quoniam Stoicus fuit, sententia condemnata mihi videtur esse inanitas ista verborum. Istam voluptatem perpetuam quis potest praestare sapienti? Eadem nunc mea adversum te oratio est. Ita relinquet duas, de quibus etiam atque etiam consideret. Sed mehercule pergrata mihi oratio tua. Non pugnem cum homine, cur tantum habeat in natura boni; Nam diligi et carum esse iucundum est propterea, quia tutiorem vitam et voluptatem pleniorem efficit. Equidem etiam Epicurum, in physicis quidem, Democriteum puto.

Age nunc isti doceant, vel tu potius quis enim ista melius? Primum Theophrasti, Strato, physicum se voluit;

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