Apud ceteros autem philosophos, qui quaesivit aliquid, tacet; Immo vero, inquit, ad beatissime vivendum parum est, ad beate vero satis. Et non ex maxima parte de tota iudicabis? Quid, de quo nulla dissensio est? Idcirco enim non desideraret, quia, quod dolore caret, id in voluptate est. Quae diligentissime contra Aristonem dicuntur a Chryippo.

Verum tamen cum de rebus grandioribus dicas, ipsae res verba rapiunt; Dicet pro me ipsa virtus nec dubitabit isti vestro beato M. Oratio me istius philosophi non offendit; Varietates autem iniurasque fortunae facile veteres philosophorum praeceptis instituta vita superabat. Aliter enim nosmet ipsos nosse non possumus.

Nam si propter voluptatem, quae est ista laus, quae possit e macello peti? Roges enim Aristonem, bonane ei videantur haec: vacuitas doloris, divitiae, valitudo; Quodsi ipsam honestatem undique pertectam atque absolutam. Age, inquies, ista parva sunt. Quid autem habent admirationis, cum prope accesseris?

Prioris generis est docilitas, memoria; Quid affers, cur Thorius, cur Caius Postumius, cur omnium horum magister, Orata, non iucundissime vixerit? Nihil minus, contraque illa hereditate dives ob eamque rem laetus. Multoque hoc melius nos veriusque quam Stoici.

Cum autem in quo sapienter dicimus, id a primo rectissime dicitur. Gerendus est mos, modo recte sentiat. Tamen a proposito, inquam, aberramus. Quid, cum fictas fabulas, e quibus utilitas nulla elici potest, cum voluptate legimus? Hoc est non modo cor non habere, sed ne palatum quidem. Hoc enim constituto in philosophia constituta sunt omnia. Falli igitur possumus. Verum tamen cum de rebus grandioribus dicas, ipsae res verba rapiunt;

Primum in nostrane potestate est, quid meminerimus? Quamquam non negatis nos intellegere quid sit voluptas, sed quid ille dicat. Sic vester sapiens magno aliquo emolumento commotus cicuta, si opus erit, dimicabit. A mene tu? At ille pellit, qui permulcet sensum voluptate. Varietates

autem iniurasque fortunae facile veteres philosophorum praeceptis instituta vita superabat. Aliter enim nosmet ipsos nosse non possumus.

Quid affers, cur Thorius, cur Caius Postumius, cur omnium horum magister, Orata, non iucundissime vixerit? Itaque haec cum illis est dissensio, cum Peripateticis nulla sane. Bork Minime vero istorum quidem, inquit.

Itaque dicunt nec dubitant: mihi sic usus est, tibi ut opus est facto, fac. Venit ad extremum; Cum praesertim illa perdiscere ludus esset. Quae fere omnia appellantur uno ingenii nomine, easque virtutes qui habent, ingeniosi vocantur. Itaque ad tempus ad Pisonem omnes.

Tecum optime, deinde etiam cum mediocri amico. Verum tamen cum de rebus grandioribus dicas, ipsae res verba rapiunt; Si verbum sequimur, primum longius verbum praepositum quam bonum. Tu vero, inquam, ducas licet, si sequetur; Itaque homo in primis ingenuus et gravis, dignus illa familiaritate Scipionis et Laelii, Panaetius, cum ad Q.

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